Cities in the time of Covid-19: MOVING TO ACTION: How Do We Respond to Anti-Black Racism in Urbanist Practices and Conversations?

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Note to reader: Chat comments have been edited for ease of readability. The text has not been edited for spelling or grammar. For questions or concerns, please contact events@canurb.org with “Chat Comments” in the subject line.11:32:21 From Belen Herrera to All panelists : Ready to listen and take notes
11:32:32 From Nupur Chaudhury : Thanks so much for continuing this important convo! -Nupur (NY)
11:32:33 From Orlando Bailey to All panelists : GOOD MORNING
11:32:43 From Anika Abdullah : Hello from St. Catharines!
11:32:50 From Stephani McIsaac to All panelists : I second the thanks! (Detroit, MI)
11:32:52 From Belen Herrera to All panelists : Hola from Seattle, WA
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11:33:03 From Rida Khan : Hi from Kitchener, so thankful for your time!
11:33:05 From Rachel Stark to All panelists : Yay to a second panel discussion on this! Thank you from Charlotte, NC!
11:33:05 From Pia Dimayuga : I am so excited for today. Thank you all for your time and your words
11:33:08 From Jillian Trinkaus : Good morning from Bellingham WA
11:33:10 From Khatereh Baharikhoob : Hello from Toronto!
11:33:17 From Gillian Mason : Hello from Scarborough!
11:33:20 From Canadian Urban Institute : You can find transcripts and recordings of today’s and all our webinars at https://www.canurb.org/citytalk
11:33:21 From Carolyn Whitzman to All panelists : Hi from Ottawa!
11:33:21 From Patricia Collins to All panelists : Hello from Kingston ON
11:33:22 From Ray Lister : Round 2! Hello from Toronto.
11:33:24 From Lauren Burkhardt to All panelists : Hello from Mississauga!
11:33:24 From Trish Campbell : Hello from Mississauga! Thanks for continuing this convo!
11:33:24 From Belen Herrera to All panelists : Morning from Seattle
11:33:32 From Kim Walton : Good morning from Berkeley, CA
11:33:34 From Lanrick Bennett to All panelists : I’ve got my kids with me during an early lunch. This is where they need to be. Thank you Jay. Thank you all for continuing this important conversation
11:33:35 From Sarah Wikle : good morning from Santa Cruz, CA thank you for continuing this convo
11:33:37 From Shin-pei Tsay to All panelists : Hello from San Francisco!
11:33:39 From Erin Ishizaki : Thank you all for this session! Morning from Seattle WA
11:33:40 From Mitchell Silver to All panelists : Hello from New York City. Hello Mary, Hello panelists, especially Jay and Tamika.
11:33:42 From Ryan Senechal : good morning from Victoria BC
11:33:43 From darren winger to All panelists : Hello from Windsor
11:33:43 From Patti Hasselstrom : Good afternoon from Cleveland, OH
11:33:43 From Steve Winkelman : Greetings from Montreal & Ottawa.
11:33:45 From Hayley Pallister : Good morning from Houston, Texas
11:33:45 From Canadian Urban Institute : Keep the conversation going #citytalk @canurb
11:33:46 From Maddy Ruvolo : Hello from San Francisco!
11:33:48 From Jonathan Neeley to All panelists : hi from Washington, DC! thank you for spending time and energy on this.
11:33:53 From Devin Burton to All panelists : Morning from Kansas City MO!
11:33:55 From Skylar Niehaus to All panelists : Good morning from rural Alberta
11:33:57 From Melanie Ewan : Hello all! Greetings from Madrid
11:33:58 From Jennifer Low : Hello from Washington, DC!
11:33:58 From Gwenevere Shaw : Good morning from Portland, OR! Thank you all for your time again! Look forward to hearing this discussion
11:34:00 From Kathleen Fitzpatrick : Hello and so grateful to be listening–from Mosier, Oregon
11:34:03 From Shannon Jaax to All panelists : Good morning from Kansas City, MO
11:34:03 From Aubrey Bader to All panelists : Hello from Knoxville, TN!
11:34:06 From Maria Chicuen : Hello from Miami! Thank you for hosting this important conversation.
11:34:06 From Michael.com Evans to All panelists : Hello y’all from Mesquite, Texas
11:34:06 From Erin Gillespie to All panelists : Hello and thank you from Charlotte, NC!
11:34:08 From Aimée González Ferriol : Hello! from Ottawa. Exited to attend this webinar. Thanks!
11:34:09 From Briana Lovell to All panelists : Hello from Seattle!
11:34:10 From Monika Rau to All panelists : Morning from Vancouver! Thank you for continuing this conversation #CityTalk #CityWatch
11:34:11 From Gabriella Lott to All panelists : Good afternoon from Raleigh, NC! Thanks for this opportunity.
11:34:13 From Dan Allison to All panelists : I did not see part 1. Is it available?
11:34:15 From Shin-pei Tsay : Hello from San Francisco to all the attendees too this time!
11:34:18 From Dori Goldberg : Good morning all from Richmond, California!
11:34:18 From Kate gunn to All panelists : hello from Edmonton!
11:34:18 From lori to All panelists : Good morning from Calgary! Great session, thanks for hosting!
11:34:19 From Dorinda Stephens to All panelists : Thanks for the conversation.
11:34:21 From Mary Jo Vortkamp to All panelists : Hello from Detroit!
11:34:21 From Ali Close to All panelists : Thank you for continuing the conversation. Looking forward to the discussion. Hello from Toronto!
11:34:22 From Ellen Woodsworth to All panelists : In solidarity from Women Transforming Cities in Vancouver. Ellen Woodsworth & Joy Masuhara
11:34:22 From Deborah Murphy to All panelists : hi from the silverlake neighborhood of los angeles
11:34:24 From Vitumbiko Mhango : Hello from Toronto!
11:34:26 From Jesse Mintz-Roth to All panelists : Hello from San Jose, CA
11:34:28 From paul mackinnon to All panelists : Hello from Halifax. Jay, thanks for referencing Africville in your Call to Courage. It is very much an unresolved legacy here, and we need to change that. There is an opportunity as we rebuild the highway interchange that is adjacent to that site, and the North End where black families were forcibly moved to.
11:34:30 From Jay Wall : Thank you all for this conversation! Hello from Scarborough.
11:34:34 From Aisha Francis to All panelists : Good morning!
11:34:36 From Arthur Ferrer to All panelists : Hello from Silver Spring, MD, thank you panelists!!
11:34:36 From Kristin Michael to All panelists : Good morning from Oakland CA
11:34:37 From Danielle Lenarcic Biss : Excited for round 2. Thank you all for your generosity! Joining the hellos from Toronto.
11:34:40 From Laura Chamberlain to All panelists : Good morning from Minneapolis! So grateful to be here!
11:34:40 From Matthew Palm to All panelists : Hello From Toronto
11:34:40 From Emily Paradis to All panelists : Hello from Toronto! So happy to be here for Part 2
11:34:43 From Casuncad Niko to All panelists : Hello from Tkaronto!
11:34:47 From Dawn Miller to All panelists : Greetings from NYC. Thanks for holding this event.
11:34:49 From Betty Smoot-Madison to All panelists : Hello from Atlanta! Thanks for hosting this session!
11:34:49 From Haley Anderson to All panelists : Hi from Toronto!
11:34:55 From Thea Kurdi : Morning everyone. Thea from Designable Environments (Mississauga, Ontario).
11:35:04 From Rudy Faust : Hello from Chicago. Good morning, all.
11:35:07 From Jannice King to All panelists : Hello all, thank you for this conversation
11:35:08 From Canadian Urban Institute : You can find transcripts and recordings of today’s and all our webinars at https://www.canurb.org/citytalk
11:35:08 From Casuncad Niko : Hello from Tkaronto!
11:35:17 From Emily Wall, CUI Staff : Today’s panel:

Jay Pitter – https://twitter.com/Jay_Pitter
Orlando Bailey – https://twitter.com/orlandopbailey
Tamika Butler – https://twitter.com/TamikaButler
Anthonia Ogundele – https://solidstate.coop/ethoslab
Will Prosper – https://twitter.com/WillProsper
11:35:17 From Pablo Beimler : .
11:35:25 From Orlando Bailey to All panelists : HELLO EVERYONE. HAPPY THAT YOU’RE JOINING US TO HAVE A MUCH NEEDED CONVERSATION
11:35:30 From Rob Polglase to All panelists : Hi with thanks for this conversation, thrilled to join you again from Melbourne, Australia
11:35:33 From Canadian Urban Institute : Folks, please change your chat settings to “all panelists and attendees” so everyone can see your comments.
11:35:40 From Lynn Ross : Hello from Miami Beach. Thanks to all of the speakers for sharing again today.
11:35:51 From Craig Cal : Hi everyone – hello from Toronto
11:35:53 From Maria Sipin to All panelists : Hi everyone. Maria Sipin. she/they. Portland, OR.
11:36:03 From Briana Lovell : Hello from Seattle!
11:36:06 From Jenna Dutton : Good morning from Calgary, thank you all for sharing your valuable time and expertise!
11:36:06 From Ebony Dumas to All panelists : What’s up from DC/MD/VA
11:36:10 From Maria Sipin : Hi everyone. Maria Sipin. she/they. Portland, OR.
11:36:18 From Savannah Langkamp to All panelists : hello from Raleigh, NC!
11:36:21 From Michelle Hoar : Hello from Vancouver. Thanks in advance for sharing your deep expertise.
11:36:22 From Jasmine Tranter : Hello, from Vancouver!
11:36:25 From Emily Wall, CUI Staff : You can access the first part of this conversation here: https://canurb.org/citytalk-news/how-do-we-respond-to-anti-black-racism-in-urbanist-practices-and-conversations/
11:36:29 From Matthew Sweet : hello from Mississauga
11:36:36 From Armi de Francia : Hello from Ajax
11:36:39 From Clara Kwon : thank you for sharing your time and wisdom. hello from Atlanta
11:36:45 From Emily Wall, CUI Staff : If you haven’t already, please read Jay’s A Call to Courage here: https://canurb.org/citytalk-news/a-call-to-courage-an-open-letter-to-canadian-urbanists/
11:36:47 From Daniel Hedglin to All panelists : Hello from Indianapolis! Thanks for sharing.
11:36:47 From Alexandra Alcorn : Hello from Charlotte! I am so, so thrilled to be back to continue to learn from these brilliant experts!
11:36:49 From selena to All panelists : Thanks for allowing me this pleasure. Selena (Vancouver, BC)
11:36:50 From ROGER Ishimwe to All panelists : Hello Everyone, from Rwanda, but now in Montreal
11:36:56 From Sarah Brown to All panelists : hello from carrboro NC!!
11:36:57 From Kendra Levine : Good morning from Berkeley, which is on unceded Ohlone land.
11:37:04 From Orlando Bailey to ROGER Ishimwe and all panelists : WELCOME!
11:38:13 From Lori Girvan to All panelists : Bonjour de Gatineau, the traditional, unceded Algonquin territory. Thank you for continuing this conversation and call to action.
11:38:46 From Armi de Francia : Worth me acknowledging that the Town of Ajax has one of the highest black populations in Canada. Here to learn how I can better serve.
11:39:18 From Julie Black : Hello all from Calgary
11:39:37 From Sunjay Mathuria : Hi all – listening from Toronto. Thank you, Jay and all panelists for this.
11:39:58 From Jeny Mathews-Thusoo : Hello everyone from Calgary too
11:40:05 From Vivian Gomes to All panelists : Hi from MTL!
11:40:10 From Nicole Huete to All panelists : Hi! Listening from Mexico City. Super excited to learn from you.
11:40:27 From Nicole Huete : Hi! Listening from Mexico City. Super excited to learn from you.
11:40:35 From Steve Winkelman : Holy sh*t. Land use planning is rooted in colonization. Thank you for illuminating that history.
11:41:17 From ERIK THOMPSON to All panelists : Hello from MN thanks to all the panelists for this work!
11:41:19 From Mary W Rowe to Mitchell Silver and all panelists : great to ‘see’ you here
11:41:39 From Cheryll Case : “landlord”
11:41:39 From Stephani McIsaac : yes! Car centric infrastructure – perpetuated racial inequity and displacement.
11:41:50 From Tyler Golly to All panelists : Hello all from Amiskwacîwâskahikan (Edmonton, Alberta)
11:42:30 From paul mackinnon : Hello from Halifax. Jay, thanks for referencing Africville in your Call to Courage. It is very much an unresolved legacy here, and we need to change that. There is an opportunity as we rebuild the highway interchange that is adjacent to that site, and the North End where black families were forcibly moved to.
11:43:21 From armando luna : hello! from Portland, Oregon!
11:43:54 From Thea Kurdi : Great to hear about ageist and ableism in this conversation
11:44:21 From Anika Abdullah : Exactly, why and how would our elders live away from urban environments?!
11:44:23 From Vivian Gomes to All panelists : and children!
11:44:46 From Cheryll Case : facts
11:44:53 From Menaka Mohan : #facts
11:44:53 From Andrea Lam : So important to engage with elders especially in the time of COVID, we’re learning how diverse their needs and abilities are!
11:46:22 From Vivian Gomes to All panelists : why!!!!
11:47:24 From Maisha Barnett to All panelists : Greetings from Seattle.
11:47:24 From Jennifer Low : Culture of attribution <3
11:47:43 From Canadian Urban Institute : Welcome new joiners! Just a reminder to please change your chat settings to “all panelists and attendees” so everyone can see your comments.
11:48:14 From Casuncad Niko : Yes!!!
11:48:18 From Mitchell Silver : Before zoning in the U.S., some communities had restictive covenants that prohibited the sale of a home to Blacks and Jews. Then came zoning in the 1920s – The Standard State Zoning Enabling Act and the Standard City Planning Enabling Act. Gave the power of a planning commision to zone and create a “master plan.”
11:48:19 From mo bot : Yes! Celebrate and acknowledge the richness that comes from our dialogues!
11:48:19 From Anita Morson-Matra to All panelists : YES!!!!!!
11:48:20 From Sonia Sequeira to All panelists : Yes! Jay!!!
11:48:26 From Nupur Chaudhury : facts
11:48:31 From sue uteck to All panelists : facts
11:48:31 From Kim Walton : Preach-Teach Jay!
11:48:36 From Cheryll Case :
11:48:36 From Belen Herrera to All panelists : OOOH yes Jay!!!!!!!
11:48:40 From Clara Kwon : Yes!
11:48:41 From Rohan Walters to All panelists : Real Talk!!!
11:48:42 From Tyler Golly to All panelists : Bring it Jay!
11:48:44 From Karen Schulman Dupuis to All panelists :
11:48:44 From Mitchell Silver : Amen Jay.
11:48:46 From Lynn Ross : Facts on facts.
11:48:47 From Sonia Sequeira to All panelists : I love the faces!!LOL
11:48:48 From Vivian Gomes to All panelists : Yes Jay!
11:48:48 From Arthur Ferrer to All panelists :
11:48:49 From Sunjay Mathuria : 100%
11:48:50 From Perrmella Harris to All panelists : Love it!!
11:48:52 From Youn Chung to All panelists : amazing
11:48:58 From Aisha Francis to All panelists : Yes!
11:48:59 From Gillian Mason : Yes Scarborough! Yes humility. Well said.
11:49:09 From paul mackinnon : never heard anyone talk tough about Scarborough before, lol.
11:49:15 From Alex Tabascio to All panelists : 100%
11:49:40 From Candice Leung to All panelists : Then you don’t know enough people from Scarborough, Paul
11:49:43 From Foong Pat CHAN to All panelists : That’s exactly it, Jay! If we have tons of BIMPOC folks, but they’re all White-aspiring… then doesn’t change much! That’s what we still see in planning work… It’s still more with numerical representation of non-whites, but not too much diverse sense of space/time.
11:49:45 From ayse yonder to All panelists : Thank you, Jay…
11:50:33 From Steve Winkelman : We Americans rarely know or acknowledge whose unceded territory we’re living on.
11:50:49 From Foong Pat CHAN to All panelists : We are expected to internalise the “universal” sense of space-time of “good urbanism” (regardless of history…)
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11:51:08 From Emily Wall, CUI Staff : Please change your chat settings to “all panelists and attendees” so everyone can see your comments.
11:51:29 From Sonia Sequeira : Thanks for the reminder!
11:52:09 From Carolyn Whitzman to All panelists : “Everything is shaped by design” – thanks Anthonia
11:52:44 From Andrea Lam : @S try this: https://native-land.ca/ You can type in your city and it will tell you the Indigenous people/peoples who lived there/traded/travelled.
11:52:45 From Olusola Olufemi to All panelists : Hello from Oakville, ON.
11:53:16 From ROGER Ishimwe : True, Bailey
11:54:07 From Mitchell Silver : If you don’t know about the “Heirs Property” tragedy in the U.S., please read. https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/heirs-property-reform/
11:54:22 From Nupur Chaudhury : Thanks for sharing Mitch!
11:54:51 From Kristin Michael to All panelists : Thanks for sharing that Orlando
11:56:02 From Orlando Bailey to Kristin Michael and all panelists : IT’S WHERE IT ALL STARTED FOR ME.
11:56:37 From Steve Winkelman : (Thank you @AndreaLam)
11:56:38 From Cheryll Case : subtle racism and otherization
11:56:54 From Stephani McIsaac : Dr. Jana and her co-author wrote a book about “subtle act of exclusion.” They explain the same thing, it’s not “micro”
11:58:22 From Jannice King to All panelists : Well said Tamika Butler.
11:59:11 From Lauren English to All panelists : yes
11:59:11 From Ray Lister : All’s well
11:59:12 From Vivian Gomes to All panelists : all good
11:59:12 From Alex Tabascio : yes
11:59:12 From Gillian Mason : yes
11:59:13 From Thea Kurdi : you’re good here
11:59:13 From Pia Dimayuga : Yes!
11:59:13 From Tyler Golly to All panelists : All good
11:59:14 From Karen Schulman Dupuis to All panelists : YOu’re good!
11:59:14 From Natalie Pace : Yes!
11:59:15 From Menaka Mohan : Yep!@
11:59:15 From Vitumbiko Mhango : Yes
11:59:15 From Elizabeth MacLeod : We can hear and see you!
11:59:15 From Gillian Mason : yes
11:59:15 From Khatereh Baharikhoob : Yes
11:59:15 From Elizabeth Irvin to All panelists : yes we can!
11:59:15 From Tristina Sinopoli : yes!
11:59:15 From Catherine Girves to All panelists : yes and yes
11:59:16 From Ray Lister : Yes for sure
11:59:16 From Dorinda Stephens : yes
11:59:16 From Zoi de la Peña : Yup!
11:59:16 From Matthew Palm to All panelists : Yes!
11:59:16 From Carolyn Whitzman to All panelists : great to hear about homespace, I remember reading bell hook’s piece on this when dinosaurs roamed the earth and still don’t know why it isn’t required reading in every planning course!
11:59:17 From Thea Kurdi : can see you
11:59:18 From Armi de Francia : I see and hear you
11:59:19 From Pamela Haskell : All good!
11:59:20 From Amanda-Rose McCulley : Yep! We can see and hear you!
11:59:20 From Kelsey Roeder : All good
11:59:22 From Perrmella Harris to All panelists : yes
11:59:23 From Stephen Corr : Yes.
11:59:24 From Canadian Urban Institute to All panelists : everything is good here….must just be you Jay.
11:59:32 From Michael.com Evans : hear you and see you fine
12:02:10 From Solomon Haile to All panelists : Hello from McLean, VA. Thank you all for sharing your experience with us and bringing this important discussion and conversation about how to respond to ant-black racism in urbanist practice and public space making.
12:02:40 From Ellen Woodsworth to All panelists : All good at this end.
12:02:40 From Melissa Balmer : But we can see you and you’re fabulous!
12:02:55 From Thea Kurdi : Temporary disability
12:02:57 From Olusola Olufemi to All panelists : It is “personal” and that makes the urbanists work more human and humane.
12:04:08 From Lauren Neefe to All panelists : #formisnotneutral
12:06:13 From Lynn Ross : We can only move at the speed of trust and that starts by meeting people where they are.
12:06:22 From Carolyn Whitzman to All panelists : shut up and listen is SO hard and SO necessary.
12:06:46 From Kim Walton : The residents/community are the experts on their world/commuity
12:07:04 From Nupur Chaudhury : Yes Lynn! And www.Blackspace.org has a wonderful group of guiding principles that focus on just that!!!!
12:07:11 From mo bot : I would love to hear the panel’s thoughts on how to get proper resourcing to truly have open and thoughtful conversations with community. Far too often there is no time and money permitted even when planners might try to lobby the holders of the purse strings for more capacity. This is big work and we need to provide budgets to do the work properly!
12:07:56 From Clara Kwon : Tamika – thank you, a message design professionals need to let sink in. 100% my experiences working in atlanta.
12:07:56 From Cynthia Wilkey to All panelists : Jay, Zoom suggestion: if you are still not seeing the others, try stoping and restarting your video. If that does not work, you might have to leave the meeting and come back in
12:07:57 From Menaka Mohan : Thats great, and for government folks, you can build that into your scope of work, i.e. acknowledging that the work may change, the scope may change. Thanks Tamika!
12:09:50 From Lynn Ross to All panelists : Hey Nupur! Yes, BlackSpace is terrific on this. We’ve also set this as a core principle in the Reimagining the Civic Commons work. https://civic commons.us.
12:10:19 From Thea Kurdi : This is what we are trying so hard to do with accessibility – getting input at the ground floor not just when everything has been decided
12:10:19 From Vivian Gomes to All panelists : Yes to neighbourhood land trust models!
12:11:29 From Dori Goldberg : Thank you Anthonia, it’s so important to make the distinction between “community participation” and really giving communities real power and the right to make decisions for themselves
12:14:38 From Courtney den Elzen to All panelists : Found Jay’s book Subdivided at a Toronto local Black Bookstore – A different Booklist . Support local while you continue your learning! https://www.adifferentbooklist.com/?searchtype=keyword&qs=jay+pitter&qs_file=&q=h.tviewer&using_sb=status&qsb=keyword
12:14:43 From Carolyn Whitzman to All panelists : Planners are so afraid of conflict and anger from poor people – yet put up with it all the time from rich NIMBY folks.
12:15:41 From Emily Wall, CUI Staff : Reminding attendees to please change your chat settings to “all panelists and attendees” so everyone can see your comments.
12:15:45 From Sean Gadon : Yes neutral – people language! Stop and eliminate the use of any and all acronyms that shut people down!
12:15:48 From Carolyn Whitzman : Planners are so afraid of conflict and anger from poor people – yet put up with it all the time from rich NIMBY folks.
12:15:57 From alexsandra gomez : Planners have fear of community meetings that involve angry residents… Thank you for recognizing that residents are traumatized by systemic violence in their communities.
12:16:21 From Dena Farsad to All panelists : there’s a subfield (or branch or whatever) called agonistic planning, and it’s about exactly this. community push back, allowing conflict (actually inviting conflict, and addressing it)
12:16:31 From mo bot : Yes Jay!
12:16:34 From Carolyn Whitzman : Oh and as Tamika said earlier, shut up and listen is SO hard and SO important.
12:16:47 From Canadian Urban Institute : You can find transcripts and recordings of today’s and all our webinars at https://www.canurb.org/citytalk
12:17:00 From Joanna Clark to All panelists : It would be amazing to hear how communities can continue to be involved from the ground up through implemented and beyond…
12:17:18 From Maggie Lea to All panelists : To get to the underlying needs, we need to help people to get off of their positions and move into understanding the interests behind those positions. There is typically common ground to be found when we discuss our interests
12:17:21 From Dena Farsad to All panelists : there’s a subfield (or branch or whatever) called agonistic planning, and it’s about exactly this. community push back, allowing conflict (actually inviting conflict, and addressing it)
12:17:40 From Melani Smith : I think Tamika’s notion of going to communities over and over, to build trust, not just when we want something, is the key going forward. but its frustrating that agency work programs, and scopes of work, to not allow or even encourage this. Needs to change. I think its fundamental.
12:17:40 From Dear Bhokanandh : Yes, and not gaslight the community that shows anger as “uncooperative” or “dysfunctional” or “difficult”
12:18:33 From Thea Kurdi : thank you for the transcript. captioning would be even better which available from Zoom during set up
12:18:37 From Michelle Hoar : Thanks for the reminder Jay that anger is a secondary emotion. So true, but in the moment when you’re facilitating something, it’s easy to forget. And a critical mistake to do so.
12:18:48 From Thea Kurdi : i’m hard of hearing and miss the odd word
12:19:03 From Mark Guslits : I was on an interesting social equity in housing this morning and one of the takeaways was that Covid and it’s urgency is allowing some cities to be able for the first time, take on NIMBY and anti density groups and essentially “force” positive change instead of just hoping for it.
12:20:52 From Emily Wall, CUI Staff to Thea Kurdi and all panelists : Hi Thea. We are looking into captioning and translation for our upcoming webinars. Thank you for pointing this out.
12:21:03 From Angela Puerta to All panelists : Could we speak about how to do outreach during COVID?
12:21:09 From Canadian Urban Institute : Keep the conversation going #citytalk @canurb
12:21:15 From Thea Kurdi : We are finally paying people with disabilities to help us based on their lived experience to ensure accessibility is usable and not just checkmark accessible design
12:21:38 From stephanie gonos to All panelists : Emotion is energy in motion. Emotions are valid. Behaviour is communication. We need to ask the whys behind the what. .
12:21:51 From Sandra Newton to All panelists : shelter example = perfect
12:22:13 From Stephani McIsaac : Thea, yes, finally.
12:22:17 From Minaz Asani : Thank you Will. I love that idea of the hybrid version. There is great value in the lived experience and organizations need to really take that into consideration when hiring.
12:22:24 From Wanda Webster Stansbury to All panelists : How do you thinker we should be responding to the current climate in communities . what should we be willing to do “ when the protest is over “ how do we engage now to facilitate place in this moment . Listen and Learn and move forward addressing community needs together !
12:22:42 From Mitchell Silver : Planners fail to realize the community outreach meetings is not about the issues today, but 30 years of pain, of being planned to death with no progress or change during those 30 years.
12:22:53 From Orlando Bailey to Mitchell Silver and all panelists : YES!!!!
12:24:00 From Armi de Francia : Is it possible to get links to the Alternative Justice System project and maybe some of the other projects mentioned?
12:24:11 From Thea Kurdi : Yes Translation is critical!
12:24:46 From Emily Wall, CUI Staff : We will be posting links referenced during today’s session on our CityTalk blog along with video and key takeaways from today’s session.
12:24:54 From Carolyn Whitzman : Anthonia was talking about this https://www.hogansalleysociety.org/
12:24:55 From Armi de Francia : Thank you!!!
12:25:22 From ayse yonder to All panelists : Thank you to all the panelists – great conversation. Would this be available online?
12:25:36 From Jeffrey Malamy : Gonna make this summary my email password!
12:25:48 From Lorne cappe : I’ve learned so much from this session. thank you to all participants! fantastic.
12:25:49 From Liz Cornish : Can someone link to the report Orlando mentioned about his work in Detroit?
12:26:12 From Alex Tabascio : https://www.ecn-detroit.org/leap
12:26:16 From Ellen Woodsworth : Such a powerful and revolutionary discussion of how to create “the right to the city for all”. Thank you very much.
12:26:30 From Ellen Woodsworth : From Women Transforming Cities
12:26:37 From Liz Cornish : @Alex Thank you!
12:26:50 From Anita Morson-Matra to All panelists : YESSSS!!!
12:26:50 From Eric Turcotte : Thank you for this enlightening session! Merci!
12:27:01 From Deborah Murphy : absolutely Jay!
12:27:11 From mo bot : 100%
12:27:20 From Mary Jo Vortkamp to All panelists : You go Jay!!
12:27:21 From Sean Gadon : Fantastic session – thanks Jay and the power panel!
12:27:22 From Karen Abrams to All panelists : Thank you for all of THIS!!! Whew… this is a word! Expecting black people to work for free….
12:27:30 From MARYBETH MCTEAGUE : Thank you Jay and panelists for sharing all of these important initiatives, insights and experiences especially, after listening, how do we translate story-based data into the built environment in a reciprocal manner
12:27:46 From paul mackinnon : Thanks. Excellent session.
12:27:50 From Vivian Gomes to All panelists : Great discussion, thank you! Thanks Carolyn and Mitchel for your comments here!
12:27:59 From Carolyn Whitzman : I could listen to this empowered panel once a week for a long time! thank you for part 2!
12:28:00 From Lauren English to All panelists : Thank you for the excellent & enlighting discussion
12:28:05 From Emily Reisman : Thank you all very much
12:28:13 From ROBIN KING : Thank you, all, so inspiring
12:28:17 From Leigh Stickle : Well said Jay! Thanks to you, Tamika, Orlando, Will and Anthonia. Incredible.
12:28:25 From Wanda Webster Stansbury to All panelists : during the pandemic , we remained in the community setting up distribution networks to hear and touch the needs of community . more equity cities means Agee ! Strong Social contract with community means the community leads ! Economic Equity is from the beginning , train, hire , pay community ! economic justice means just that !
12:28:34 From Jennifer Low : Yes, so important
12:28:43 From Sunjay Mathuria : 100%
12:28:44 From Bonnie Wessler : Yes!
12:28:46 From Jason Neville to All panelists : yes
12:28:46 From Lori Girvan to All panelists : +++ – also, get rid of exploitative free ‘internships’
12:28:48 From Nupur Chaudhury : related to economic violence: are these panelist being paid?
12:28:50 From Hank Wang : Well said
12:28:53 From Sandra Newton to All panelists : inspiring! when is the next one of these? looking for ways to become meaningfully involved. grateful for these essential conversations…
12:28:58 From shanna draheim to All panelists : Thanks for talking about these hard topics – compensation for the value of people’s time and labor, the fear planners have about sorting through negative community dialogues, and giving place to process the trauma felt by communities over generations.
12:28:59 From Jennifer Low : YES
12:29:00 From Shaun Smakal : ABSOLUTELY!!
12:29:00 From Clara Kwon : Tamika – your honesty and clarity is much appreciated.
12:29:05 From Andrea Lam : Yes!!
12:29:11 From Michelle Hoar : Again, such an amazing session. Thank you Jay for your incredible organizing and facilitating. Thank you panelists for your enormous intelligence and inspiring work. Learning tons from all of you.
12:29:21 From carolyn vera to All panelists : Yes, Tamika!
12:29:29 From Giuseppe Tolfo : this has been such an incredible session. thank you all so much.
12:29:30 From Michelle Hoar : And yes Tamika. Anger is secondary, but DEFINITELY valid.
12:29:33 From Rida Khan : YES!
12:29:36 From Stephani McIsaac : thank you for ring it back to the anger conversation
12:29:45 From Thea Kurdi : Yes!
12:29:47 From Menaka Mohan : YES.
12:29:53 From Belen Herrera to All panelists : Fire!!! Yyyaaaasss! 100%
12:29:54 From Alice Jim : Yes, BIPOC rage and anguish is valid. Thank you, Tamika!
12:29:55 From Kim Walton : Amen to that !
12:30:03 From Vitumbiko Mhango : Agreed!
12:30:06 From Zeina Ahmed to All panelists : YES. Thank you Tamika.
12:30:06 From Lynn Ross to All panelists : 100%
12:30:10 From Saira Abdulrehman : Such a fantastic session. thank you for all of your time, for sharing your work and for speaking truth. Amazing
12:30:10 From Belen Herrera to All panelists : VALID!!!
12:30:13 From Sneha Mandhan : Anger/emotion is also considered a ‘feminine’ quality – something we really need to move away from!
12:30:15 From Casuncad Niko : Yess Tamika
12:30:16 From Karen Abrams to All panelists : Yes to all the rage + anger. It’s valid. Thank you Tamika!
12:30:16 From Mitchell Silver : Thank you.
12:30:20 From Julie Black : I’m going to have to watch this a dozen times to hear deeply all the excellent points raised by this amazing panel. It’s so good.
12:30:21 From Sarah Button : Thank you all so much for sharing your experiences and insights, this has been a great session. Some really critical things here to think about and reflect on. Specific takeaways for me about rethinking community meetings in light of community trauma, emotional investment, and the importance and validity of conflict/anger as part of that.
12:30:22 From Lauren An : Thank you for your insights and valuable takeaways, and for the opportunity to listen to you!
12:30:23 From Sneha Mandhan : Thank you Anthonia, Jay, Orlando, Tamika, and Will!
12:30:25 From Lauren English to All panelists : Unfortunately I have to sign off now but thank you!!
12:30:26 From Danielle Lenarcic Biss : Thank you so much.
12:30:30 From Jennifer Low : Thank you all!
12:30:31 From Belen Herrera to All panelists : Amazing. all of you. thank you. thank . thank you
12:30:31 From Daniel Hedglin : Thank you all!
12:30:34 From Aliya Mejias to All panelists : Thank you!!
12:30:34 From Jaclyn Silbernagel to All panelists : Thank you all!
12:30:36 From Jennifer Low : I took great notes
12:30:37 From Maggie Lea to All panelists : anger, unchecked, turns to hate. Anger has an amber energy to it and can be quite motivating, but it needs to be harnessed in a productive way – through conflict and the dedication to move through it together
12:30:38 From Dena Farsad : thank you all
12:30:39 From Lindsay Stroud to All panelists : Thank you for sharing this conversation. I am so appreciative of every opportunity to learn from each of you.
12:30:40 From Georgia Luyt to All panelists : Thanks so much for this session!
12:30:40 From Iona Bonamis to All panelists : Thank you!
12:30:42 From Anne to All panelists : thank you everyone! / merci à tous!
12:30:43 From Vitumbiko Mhango : Thank you for a great session
12:30:44 From Jackson Foster : Thank you all so much! This was once again super insightful
12:30:44 From Liz O’Donoghue to All panelists : Thank you for such an enriching discussion!
12:30:45 From Ute Lehrer to All panelists : Thank you! Great again!
12:30:45 From armando luna : thank you everyone!
12:30:45 From Anika Abdullah : Thank you all! There will never be enough time for these sessions
12:30:45 From Jason Neville to All panelists : Thanks everyone
12:30:45 From bria aird : Thank you!!
12:30:46 From Sharon Welch : Thank you everyone!
12:30:47 From Mark Anderson : Thank You All for your time
12:30:47 From Kirima Isler : Thank you everyone!
12:30:48 From Chelsea Abella : Thank you all so much!
12:30:48 From Elizabeth Irvin : Thank you all for this brilliant discussion!
12:30:48 From Margaret Mullins to All panelists : Thank y’all sooo much
12:30:49 From Thea Kurdi : this was so great! so much great information. thank you for including disabled people
12:30:49 From Deborah Murphy : the next session should be 90 minutes. we all have the time and need the conversation
12:30:50 From Jeffrey Malamy : Thank you all!
12:30:50 From Cynthia Wilkey to All panelists : Fantastic panel, once again!!!! Thank you all and CUI
12:30:51 From Tanja Oswald to All panelists : Thank you once again to all of you for everything!!
12:30:51 From Zoi de la Peña : Thank you!
12:30:51 From Alexandra Alcorn : Thank you! This was amazing.
12:30:52 From Kelly Henderson to All panelists : Thank you so much – incredible session
12:30:52 From Stephen Corr : Excellent session, thank you all!
12:30:53 From Veronica Siranosian to All panelists : Thank you all for being brilliant, beloved, and incredible!
12:30:53 From Robert White : Thank you everyone for sharing your knowledge and experience with each of us.
12:30:53 From Keisha St. Louis-McBurnie to All panelists : thank you, again
12:30:54 From Kevin Ryan to All panelists : Fantastic discussion. Thank you all!
12:30:54 From Aubrey Bader : Wow that hour went quickly. Thank you all!
12:30:54 From LEELA Viswanathan to All panelists : Thanks so much!
12:30:54 From Erica Lay : Thank you Jay, Anthonia, Will, Orlando and Tamika.
12:30:54 From Michelle Hoar : Lots of great notes to take away.
12:30:55 From Melani Smith : Thanks to all of you!
12:30:56 From Maria Chicuen : Thank you so much!
12:30:57 From Shawna Bowen to All panelists : thanks so much for this and previous sessions
12:30:57 From leif olson to All panelists : thank you for sharing your wise thoughts.
12:30:58 From Pamela Haskell : Thank you everyone, so much to think about
12:30:58 From Stephanie Malcher : Thank you Tamika for that. Thank you to you all.
12:30:58 From Stephani McIsaac : thank you SO much
12:30:59 From Gillian Mason : Thank you all for your generosity and insights!
12:30:59 From Belen Herrera : Thank you
12:31:01 From Alexis Vidaurreta : Thank you all!
12:31:02 From Betty Smoot-Madison to All panelists : THank you all!! phenomenal lessons for us all!
12:31:03 From Tooba Shakeel : Thank you for an amazing session!
12:31:03 From Sarah Wikle : Thank you for your time, your labor, and your insight. It is so grounding to hear about these topics and find ways we as urbanists can do more
12:31:03 From ERIK THOMPSON : thanks all I took a ton of notes but if this was recorded please share a link ! Thank you so much!
12:31:03 From Lori Girvan to All panelists : Thank you, Jay, Tamika, Anthonia, Will and Orlando and CUI –
12:31:04 From Alex Tabascio : Thank you all. what an eye-opening experience
12:31:04 From melanie day : Thank you, thank you, thank you
12:31:04 From Armi de Francia : Thank you for sharing this valuable knowledge! This was amazing! Can’t wait to learn more about the projects mentioned.
12:31:04 From Minaz Asani : Thank you all.
12:31:04 From Pablo Beimler : This should be required viewing for everyone in my planning school! Your insight is a breath of fresh air. Thank you all!
12:31:04 From David Moore : Thank you Jay and panelists!
12:31:05 From Andrea Lam : There is so much thought provoking content, clearly we need this type of conversation to happen more frequently. Thank you for sharing!
12:31:05 From Sarah Leiva to All panelists : Thank You for your time!
12:31:05 From Kim Walton : What a great lesson to hear and learn this morning. I can continue my day feeling nurtured with your words.
12:31:07 From Elizabeth MacLeod : Thank you all!
12:31:08 From Aimée González Ferriol : Thanks you all! This was great!
12:31:09 From Aliyyah Balson to All panelists : Thank you everyone. This series has been invaluable.
12:31:10 From Alice Jim : Action none negotiable. Got it! Thank you!
12:31:10 From Gabriella Lott : thanks so much, everyone!!!
12:31:11 From Danielle Kerrigan : Thank you everyone!!!!
12:31:12 From Candace Safonovs : Thank you all so much for showing up again to share with us!
12:31:12 From Mark Guslits : Thanks Jay. Always great to be around you.
12:31:13 From Nancy Smith Lea to All panelists : Amazing session, thank you!
12:31:14 From Alison Creba to All panelists : So glad that this is continuing! Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to the next one!
12:31:15 From Will Prosper : THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR THE SHARED WISDOM.
12:31:16 From carolyn vera : thank you!
12:31:18 From Shravani Rao Vydula to All panelists : Thanks! This is revelatory!
12:31:21 From eunice wong : Thank you!
12:31:21 From Lauren Neefe : Thank you, Tamika, Anthonia, Will, Orlando, and Jay.
12:31:21 From Patti Hasselstrom : Amazing. Thank you all of you for your time!
12:31:22 From Hayley Pallister : Thank you, all. I’ve learned so much.
12:31:22 From Christof Spieler : Bravo!
12:31:22 From Jennifer Durden : Thanks to all! Great conversation.
12:31:23 From Reza Nik : THAN KYOU!
12:31:23 From Raven McKnight to All panelists : Thank you thank you thank you
12:31:25 From Joanna Clark to All panelists : Thank you!!!
12:31:26 From Bethany Howard : THANK YOU!
12:31:27 From Patricia Collins to All panelists : Thank you!!
12:31:29 From Rachel Stuart to All panelists : thank you so much!
12:31:31 From Andre Boudreaux to All panelists : THANK YOU!!!
12:31:32 From Olusola Olufemi to All panelists : Excellent discussion!
12:31:35 From Jay Wall : Thank you for generously sharing.
12:31:36 From Jaime Fearer : Thank you all!
12:31:37 From Shannon Hill : Thank you. I’ve learned so much. Greatly appreciated.
12:31:39 From Jaime Espinoza to All panelists : Thank you!!
12:31:43 From Natalie Pace : thank you everyone!
12:31:45 From Tanja Oswald : Thank you to all of you once again for everything!!!
12:31:47 From Pamela Downey : thank you!!
12:31:47 From Kristin Michael to All panelists : Thank you all so much for sharing your expertise and experience. I learned a lot.
12:31:47 From Grace Kaplowitz to All panelists : Thank you very much, brilliant, beloved, incredible panelists and Jay!
12:31:49 From Leanne Roderick (she/her) : Heartfelt, inspired thanks to everyone
12:31:52 From Michelle Rowland : Thank you!
12:31:53 From Canadian Urban Institute : CUI extends a big thank you to Jay Pitter and our panel for this exceptional discussion. Thanks to our attendees too for your keen participation!
12:31:53 From Eva Salinas : THANK YOU
12:32:00 From Amanda Mitchell : Thank you everyone and CUI!
12:32:01 From Karen New : Thank you all so much.
12:32:02 From Wanda Webster Stansbury to All panelists : Anger is valid ! Anger is Power , We need to empower anger in the Black Community to move forward in an intentional way . Anger is valid and we are now faced with a climate infused with righteous anger ! Thank You awesome ! panel Jay great ! #Black Communities Matter