Featured Guest
You’ll find this guest among our growing roll of Urban Champions.
Tamika Butler
Doctoral Student, UCLA’s Luskin School of Public Affairs
Mike Savage
Mayor of Halifax
Jay Pitter
Founder, Jay Pitter Placemaking
Alex Bozikovic
Architecture Critic, The Globe and Mail
5 Key
Takeaways
A roundup of the most compelling ideas, themes and quotes from this candid conversation
1. Adaptation shouldn’t come at the expense of accessibility
Katherine Peinhardt argues that when it comes to adapting to a changing climate, adaptation cannot come at the expense of accessibility. Giving the example of rain gutters or steps that can make public space inaccessible for some members of the community, she says, “if it doesn’t work well for everyone, it doesn’t work. A resilient public space is first and foremost a public space.”
2. A new world is upon us—which direction will we choose?
Jeff Goodell presents the sobering reality that even if we outlaw fossil fuels and go to zero carbon emissions tomorrow, sea levels would still continue to rise for decades to come. However, he argues, we are in a moment of transformation, where a new world is possible. “In the coming years, we’re going to reinvent where and how we live. We can build a fairer, more just world. Or not. It’s up to us.” He proposes a series of big questions that we must tackle ahead: Will we get serious about cutting carbon? When does the real estate market collide with climate science? Where will the money for adaptation come from? How quickly will we stop building walls and learn to live with water? Who decides who, and what, will be saved?
3. Sustainability is more than green
Julian Agyeman speaks about the equity deficit in conversations about sustainability. Going forward, we need planning at both the human and humane scales—addressing urban equality, equity, and human dignity at the same time as climate objectives. Says Agyeman, “Sustainability cannot only be a green or environmental concept. True sustainability is achieved when social need, welfare, and economic opportunity are integrated into living within the environment’s limits.”
4. Your race impacts your quality of life
Using the example of Los Angeles, where she lives, Tamika Butler points out that the race you are born into is more determinant of your outcomes than any other factor. This plays out geographically as well. South Los Angeles is made up of predominantly Black and Latinx communities, while West Los Angeles is predominantly white. Giving the examples of migrant workers and frontline workers, she says, “If the climate is going to drastically change everything we do, how just and how sustainable will that change be if we determine some are worth saving, and some are worth helping others to be saved?”
5. Co-produced futures are the only way forward
In the ensuing moderated conversation, the presenters agreed that we need to move from models of allyship to models of accomplices. We need urban planning and urban design professions with practitioners that look like and come from the communities they are designing for; people who are both culturally competent, and culturally humble. Changing the future starts with changing who’s doing the work.
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09:05:03 From Max Brookman to All panelists : Hello and Good afternoon from London
09:05:18 From Corrine Cash to All panelists : Hi everyone, I am Dr. Corrine Cash. I lead the Building Resilient Communities work at the Coady Institute in Antigonish and I am an Assistant Professor in the Climate and Environment Program at St FX University. I am also a Planner (Masters and PhD in Planning from the University of Waterloo). Reach out to me at ccash@stfx.ca
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09:06:13 From Corrine Cash : Hi everyone, I am Dr. Corrine Cash. I lead the Building Resilient Communities work at the Coady Institute in Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada and I am an Assistant Professor in the Climate and Environment Program at St FX University. I am also a Planner (Masters and PhD in Planning from the University of Waterloo). Reach out to me at ccash@stfx.ca
09:06:14 From bill campbell : Welcome to Halifax. Congrats to the organizing group for assembling these enlightened presenters.
09:06:15 From Susan Chin : Greetings from NYC/CT.!
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09:06:27 From Kate Gunn to All panelists : greetings to all from Edmonton Alberta!
09:06:28 From TJ Maguire, AoCB : Good morning from Halifax!
09:06:35 From Meghan Hollett to All panelists : Thanks for recording! Hoping this recording will be placed online at a later time.
09:06:36 From Mary Rowe : Looking forward to it Mayor Savage!
09:06:43 From Sakshi Nanda : Good evening from Mumbai!
09:06:45 From Marie-Josée Houle to All panelists : Greetings from Ottawa!
09:06:51 From Annalisa Raymer : Greetings from Ithaca, NY
09:06:52 From reg nalezyty : Good Morning from Thunder Bay
09:06:54 From Grant Ruffinengo to All panelists : Hello from Halifax 🙂
09:06:54 From Julian Agyeman to All panelists : Hi from Boston!
09:07:06 From Angie Desmarais to All panelists : Good morning from Port Colborne, Ontario
09:07:19 From Mary Rowe to All panelists : I LOVE the look of the shot with the screen live behind — very cool!
09:07:22 From Alex Smith to All panelists : Good morning from Eastern Passage
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09:08:54 From Purshottama Reddy to All panelists : Looking forward to this very interesting and topical conference – from Canada and South Africa.
09:08:59 From Canadian Urban Institute : Alex Bozicovic https://twitter.com/alexbozikovic https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-bozikovic-5260649/ Jeff Goodell https://twitter.com/jeffgoodell https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-goodell-70344211a/ Katherine Peinhardt https://twitter.com/kpeinhardt https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherineapeinhardt/ Julian Agyeman https://twitter.com/julianagyeman https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianagyeman/ Tamika Butler https://twitter.com/TamikaButler https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamikabutler/
09:09:03 From Annalisa Raymer : @Canadian Urban Inst —Will recordings of sessions be available?
09:09:24 From Beverley Bradnam to All panelists : Good morning from the Town of Fort Erie, on the shores of Lake Erie and the mouth of the Niagara River
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09:09:25 From Amy Bolt : Hello from the Community Housing Transformation Centre! Check out our website (centre.support) for funding opportunities to help your organization transform community housing into a more sustainable sector. Feel free to reach out to me: a.bolt@centre.support.
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09:11:37 From Purshottama Reddy : Will any papers be available ?. Thanks
09:12:12 From Canadian Urban Institute to Tara Wickwire, AoCB (Privately) : Hey, Tara! I think the next session in the afternoon I’m going to let you run through the session timing and switching between speakers and then I’ll just talk about the tech – is that okay with you?
09:12:25 From Canadian Urban Institute to Tara Wickwire, AoCB (Privately) : Going really well so far! Excellent opening!
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09:12:51 From Canadian Urban Institute to Purshottama Reddy and all panelists : There will be transcripts of the recording and the chat.
09:13:49 From Tara Wickwire, AoCB to Canadian Urban Institute(Privately) : Sounds good!
09:14:29 From Canadian Urban Institute to Selena Zhang, CUI(Privately) : Thanks!
09:17:23 From Grant Ruffinengo to All panelists : https://www.linkedin.com/in/gruffinengo/
09:20:10 From Charles Williams to All panelists : seems like a lot of concreate?
09:21:52 From Canadian Urban Institute to Selena Zhang, CUI(Privately) : Reminding attendees to change their chat settings to “all panelists and attendees” so everyone can see your comments. Thanks!
09:23:25 From Lester Brown to All panelists : are people aware of Sherbourne Square at the foot of Sherbourne Street . Toronto. It combines, art, a playground, a park and stormwater management.
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09:26:10 From Canadian Urban Institute to Tara Wickwire, AoCB (Privately) : Hey, Tara! Just confirming you are not coming back at the end, correct? Alex will close the session?
09:26:17 From Canadian Urban Institute to Tara Wickwire, AoCB (Privately) : I’ll send him a note to confirm.
09:26:17 From Lester Brown : Just again for everybody. I believe Sherbourne Square at the foot of Sherbourne St. Toronto is a water square. It has combined a park, with a skating rink, art, a playground and a stormater management system, including treatment under a park building.
09:27:05 From Canadian Urban Institute to Tara Wickwire, AoCB (Privately) : I’ll make sure to put the thank you up on behalf of AOCB
09:27:14 From Alex Bozikovic : Lester: That’s true. A different system of stormwater management, but yes.
09:28:17 From Sakshi Nanda to All panelists : There’s a lot to learn from Rotterdam. Thanks for this presentation+this initiative
09:29:48 From Maria Bravo : Greetings from Montreal
09:30:05 From Nathan Rogers : Thanks Katherine! I’ve got some take aways
09:30:28 From Chris Chopik to All panelists : Katherine, Great preso. Human Centred Design Research is a missing component in both design and response, and I appreciated your focus on “continuing to ask users and staff”
09:30:34 From Alan Mcnair : Katherine:
09:30:49 From Canadian Urban Institute to Katherine Peinhardt(Privately) : Well done!!
09:31:09 From Alan Mcnair : Excellent presentation! Thanks for putting in the effort to enlighten us!
09:31:27 From Katherine Peinhardt to Canadian Urban Institute(Privately) : thank you!
09:36:06 From Jeanette Fich Jespersen to All panelists : Katherine, truly enjoyed your presentation. Thank you.
09:38:09 From Annalisa Raymer : Thank you, Katherine, for a terrific presentation.
09:40:51 From Niken D. Swastika : Thank you Katherine for the enlightening presentantion.
09:43:05 From Corrine Cash : This is incredible
09:47:56 From Susan Kapetanovic-Marr to All panelists : where is this wall located?
09:51:00 From Chris Chopik to All panelists : #AbandoningAtlantis What is the Real Estate wealth impact?https://openresearch.ocadu.ca/id/eprint/2540/ Property Value in an Era of Climate Change
09:52:23 From Canadian Urban Institute to Chris Chopik and all panelists : Hi, Chris! Can you re-share this and change your settings to all panelists and attendees? I know other people would love to check out the link. Thanks!
09:54:20 From Zubair Ahmed : Thank you for sharing the Lagos example
09:55:09 From Chris Chopik : #AbandoningAtlantis What is the Real Estate wealth impact?https://openresearch.ocadu.ca/id/eprint/2540/ Property Value in an Era of Climate Change #KeepDoingTheSameStupidShit
09:55:14 From Neelu Mehta : Great presentation and very informative. Thank you 🙂
09:56:08 From lesley crompton to All panelists : I loved the Norfolk realization… so true
09:57:49 From Jacqueline Rhee : How do we make these issues and discussions a part of mainstream education? Solutions will not come without broad acceptance.
09:57:54 From Minaz Asani : Your last question about ‘who’ is the most profound and I’m interested to know if there are any countries or governments really working on this.
09:58:01 From Jeanette Fich Jespersen to All panelists : Thought provoking, yet hands-on. Thank you very much for a fabulous talk!
10:00:31 From Lester Brown : fantastic presentation. Thank you.
10:00:40 From Canadian Urban Institute to Jeff Goodell (Privately) : Well done! That was perfect!
10:01:16 From Paul Mackinnon, AoCB : uh oh. Julian just rolled up his sleeves…
10:01:59 From Jeff Goodell to Canadian Urban Institute(Privately) : Thanks! I know it went a little long…..
10:02:30 From Neil Bailey : Greetings from Winnipeg! 🙂
10:02:36 From Canadian Urban Institute to Jeff Goodell (Privately) : Nope. It was perfect. 🙂
10:02:49 From Jeff Goodell to Canadian Urban Institute(Privately) : Thank you
10:03:57 From Purshottama Reddy : Very insighful and topical presentations – certainly giving us food for thought on issues of climate change.
10:06:06 From Rachelle Morgan to All panelists : Wow, yes!
10:14:56 From Chris Chopik to All panelists : Julian, very important issues, can you touch on North American aboriginal inclusion…. #FirstPeopleFirstRights
10:15:59 From Lester Brown : I notice it being recorded. I have another meeting to attend but thank you for these great presentations.
10:16:31 From Faryal Diwan : I’m in love with this talk
10:16:52 From Faryal Diwan : so insightful!!!
10:17:04 From Heather Majaury to All panelists : Same. Great Synthesis joining the dots.
10:17:19 From Nufida Pujiastuti : great ideas from each of the speakers… thanks so thoughtful session…
10:18:01 From Heather Majaury to All panelists : There is a great documentary about the the redlining legacy of Minneapolis. Will share if I can find it.
10:18:57 From Heather Majaury to All panelists : Redlining and Greenling connected if not considering the legacy
10:19:30 From Canadian Urban Institute to Heather Majaury and all panelists : Hi, Heather! When you share, make sure you change your chat settings to ‘all panelists and attendees” so everyone can receive it. Thanks!
10:20:26 From Tom Yarmon to All panelists : Julian’s presentation is really hitting home to me sitting in my home office on a leafy street in Toronto. I am constantly reminded that no matter how often I profess my open mindedness, my years of learning and cultural background still weighs me down. Thank you, Juliajn.
10:21:03 From Heather Majaury : Can I change the posts already sent?
10:21:03 From Tom Yarmon : Julian’s presentation is really hitting home to me sitting in my home office on a leafy street in Toronto. I am constantly reminded that no matter how often I profess my open mindedness, my years of learning and cultural background still weighs me down. Thank you, Juliajn.
10:21:32 From Canadian Urban Institute to Heather Majaury and all panelists : Reminding attendees to please change their chat settings to “all panelists and attendees” so everyone can see your comments. Thank you!
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10:21:41 From Olusola Olufemi : Very thoughtful Julian!
10:21:46 From Skylar Niehaus : Amazing talk! Thank you Julian!
10:22:06 From Jo Nee to All panelists : Thank you Julian – great talk
10:22:09 From Nathan Rogers : democratize all streets!
10:22:16 From Niko Casuncad to All panelists : Ahh such a great presentation, thank you Julian
10:22:20 From Kate Macmillan : Thank you Julian! Your talk was so enlightening and gives a lot to think about!
10:22:20 From Elena Christy : Brilliant talk! Thank you, Julian!
10:22:25 From Corrine Cash to All panelists : Urban Planning has been used for racial segregation throughout history. Reserve system in Canada reflects this. Just look at South Africa during apartheid (and post apartheid)
10:22:28 From Neelu Mehta : Thank yo so much 🙂
10:22:39 From Corrine Cash : Hi everyone, I am Dr. Corrine Cash. I lead the Building Resilient Communities work at the Coady Institute in Antigonish and I am an Assistant Professor in the Climate and Environment Program at St FX University. I am also a Planner (Masters and PhD in Planning from the University of Waterloo). Reach out to me at ccash@stfx.ca
10:22:45 From Corrine Cash : Urban Planning has been used for racial segregation throughout history. Reserve system in Canada reflects this. Just look at South Africa during apartheid (and post apartheid)
10:22:56 From Alison Moreau : Julian, your talk really helped make the connection between social and environmental justice, for me. I will be learning as much as I can on this subject! Thank you so much for your insights and calls for change.
10:23:08 From Elizabeth Jassem, Y(i)DOME ID Ltd., (YC SSC) York Centre Seniors Steering to All panelists : Great PRESENTION Julian. Agree w Alex re complete streets analysis.
10:23:14 From Jeanette Fich Jespersen to All panelists : Great insights and contextual conclusions, really useful. THank you.
10:23:43 From Max Brookman : Very insightful and thought provoking to link the social justice and climate change
10:23:48 From Elizabeth Jassem, Y(i)DOME ID Ltd., (YC SSC) York Centre Seniors Steering to All panelists : GOOD MORNING! Hello to CUI and Everybody!!
10:23:49 From Canadian Urban Institute to Julian Agyeman(Privately) : Julian! You were amazing!! Well done!!!
10:24:02 From Rollajia Cooper : Thank you so much.
10:24:05 From Minaz Asani : Julian, that was brilliant, been grappling with these issues and you laid them out really well.
10:24:06 From Lilian Phillip to All panelists : Thanks, Jillian Loved it!
10:24:33 From Lester Brown : always worried about Green gentrification. Thank you for your presentation Julian.
10:26:46 From Ohi Izirein to All panelists : Planners continue to be weak in determining what the politicians put in place. Are planners the visionaries or are they just implementers of politicians’ policies.
10:26:59 From Vivian Forssman : Thank you for an excellent group of speakers today – wish I could stay on this call but another Zoom call awaits. I am Vivian Forssman, Program Lead at Adaptation Learning Network (adaptationlearningnetwork.com), an initiative of Resilience by Design Lab at Royal Roads University. ALN is focused on education and training re climate adaptation.
10:32:07 From Corrine Cash : Planners from South Africa came to Canada to learn how the reserve system was designed when they (South African Planners) were spatially designing for apartheid. This is important because we in Canada sometimes think that we have done (and do) no wrong.
10:34:14 From Niko Casuncad : Yes!!
10:34:52 From Paul Partington : 👏
10:35:39 From Rachelle Morgan to All panelists : ****Finger snap*****
10:35:58 From Rachelle Morgan : ****Finger snap*****
10:36:43 From Olusola Olufemi : Injustice! Spatial and racial segregation, this is what gated communities are all about especially in South Africa. Nothing has really changed in regards to racialized planning inspite of the desegregation and deracializing policies.
10:37:55 From Niko Casuncad : Ahh this is so great, so much to learn from this and put it into practice
10:40:54 From Kate Macmillan : Even the plan layout seems more accessible to read and understand! Such exciting work Tamika!
10:41:52 From Rachelle Morgan : I agree Kate, I agree this is digestible!
10:42:19 From Rachelle Morgan : LOLOLOL
10:42:47 From Meghan McMorris to All panelists : Can someone post the website please?
10:42:51 From Purshottama Reddy : The points mentioned about racialised spatial planning is very relevant and important – just as important is institutionalised racism (which is not immediately visible) which needs to be addressed as a matter of urgency.
10:43:15 From Rachelle Morgan : Yes Co-Power!!!! Community Power!!! Pay the community as the experts they are!!
10:43:25 From Gagan Batra to All panelists : Old Kanye also said having money’s not everything, but not having it is… I felt that and so true when looking at the different power dynamics between low income vs high income
10:43:45 From Niko Casuncad : 100%
10:44:47 From Kristal Çelik to All panelists : Thanks for being up and sharing this so early California time, Tamika
10:45:01 From Kristal Çelik : Thanks for being up and sharing this so early California time, Tamika
10:47:51 From Sarena Seifer to All panelists : Fantastic presentation
10:48:08 From Niko Casuncad : Thank you Tamika!
10:48:13 From Danielle Lenarcic Biss : So grateful for the learning during all of these presentations. Thank you, thank you!
10:48:17 From Maria Bravo : Thanks all !
10:48:19 From Paul Mackinnon, AoCB : www.artofcitybuilding.ca
10:48:36 From Karol Murillo to All panelists : Thank you Tamika
10:48:38 From Reiko Ema to All panelists : Wow!!!
10:48:48 From Mark Pajot to All panelists : refreshing truth telling
10:48:51 From Canadian Urban Institute to Tamika Butler on Tongva Land(Privately) : Amazing! Well done!!
10:48:52 From Margaret Prophet : so grateful for the learning in this session. 🙏
10:48:55 From Sean Kelly to All panelists : Excellent presentations, gratitude to you all.
10:49:10 From Elena Christy : Thank you so much, Tamika! You have raised so many imperative points.
10:49:16 From Skylar Niehaus : Incredible talk! Thank you Tamika!
10:49:18 From Minaz Asani : Omg Tamika, thank you! You can’ see, but I’m applauding loudly.
10:49:21 From Brian Webb : This session has been fantastic. So much to try to put into practice
10:49:58 From Alan Mcnair : This may be the best 2 hours I have ever spent in my working life in planning!
10:50:12 From Daniel Bryce to All panelists : This ahs probably been the best conference I have ever been too, virtual or otherwise!
10:50:48 From Andre . to All panelists : Will a recording be made available?
10:50:51 From Tara Wickwire, AoCB : Please feel free to submit a question for our panelists.
10:50:57 From Canadian Urban Institute : Reminding attendees to please change your chat settings to “all panelists and attendees” so everyone can see your comments.
10:51:14 From Canadian Urban Institute : The conversations will be saved on www.ArtOfCityBuilding.ca & Art of City Building on YouTube. Thank you for sharing your observations and learnings – we celebrate engagement! #aocb2020
10:51:16 From Mark Pajot to All panelists : Observing how things are unfolding in the US – you think change can change without violence? There
10:51:33 From reg nalezyty : Two of my ‘best spent’ hours in a long time. I hope the councillors to whom I sent the link actually attended
10:51:36 From Jeanette Fich Jespersen to All panelists : Thank you ever so much for a passionate and insightful presentations, Tamika. Thank you to all organisers and speakers, this was a most enlightenin constellation of knowledge.
10:51:50 From Canadian Urban Institute to Mark Pajot and all panelists : Mark, feel free to share the question with all attendees too….
10:52:25 From Elena Christy : Agreed Alan Mcnair!
10:52:39 From Melissa Ricci to All panelists : Amazing panel! Thank you CUI.
10:53:00 From Chris Chopik to All panelists : How do we create circumstance for self determination #plannedretreat, in particular in working with vulnerably located populations across the continent? #FAEMAfundsDisasterResponseNotDisasterPrepardeness
10:53:37 From Chris Chopik to All panelists : FEMA
10:54:08 From Mark Pajot : Observing how things are unfolding in the US, you think things can change in a peaceful manner? There doesn’t seem to be level heads among leadership currently.
10:54:48 From Gagan Batra : How would you recommend municipal employees influence decision makers to see these questions of inequity and the connection between urban space and racial disparities as issues that should be addressed? Leaders are so unwilling sometimes to admit that there’s a problem and the non-minority leaders especially don’t address these problems because it’s “uncomfortable”.
10:54:49 From Purshottama Reddy : My question : my understanding is that by and large, we do do not have to change any legislation/policies to ensure accessibility/equity, but a change in attitude, behaviour and perhaps political/management will. Any comments ?
10:57:03 From Jacqueline Rhee : The canonization of historical precedent as a justification for current policy needs to be unwound. We also need to make these necessary changes in equity unthreatening to the people who currently enjoy all of that privilege. What action can we take to move the needle?
10:57:37 From Mark Pajot : The Challenge is also there is no reward for those in gov. advocating for justice. If anything those who are brave are often uninvited from meetings…
10:57:59 From Michael Redhead Champagne to All panelists : how do we include the voices of civil disobedience or protest into city planning processes?? it’s often unexpected but their love for space and their voice in seeking equity is undeniable. how do urban planners show protesters (for indigenous people land protectors) they are listening?
10:59:29 From NEGIN Minaei : People are not still open to hear about racial differences and celebrate them so we could integrate them in our planing and design to create social inclusion and equity for all. Talking about racial differences and accepting people the way they are is still considered very sensitive. How do you show your good intentions when you want to talk about including everyone?
10:59:58 From Chris Chopik to All panelists : #DeepEthnography #DeepListening keeping communities futures self determined.
11:00:28 From Jeanette Fich Jespersen : Hmm, it’s a challenge to have the implementation level, the practitioners, have the same insights as we have been enjoying here. Talking about priviledge, imho that is a priviledge many practitioners don’t get. Or, their reality is limited by short-sighted budget planning procedures: no maintenance allowed, for instance.
11:00:33 From Canadian Urban Institute to Selena Zhang, CUI(Privately) : Hey, Selena! Mary is wondering if someone can save the chat, but mine will be slowed down by the fact that I will be downloading the video at the same time. Would you mind clicking the three dots to the right of the chat TO: at the bottom of the chat screen here and select SAVE CHAT? Mary would like to review before the noon session.
11:01:58 From Chris Chopik to All panelists : where do we find budget for inclusive design strategies, is there an ROI Inclusive Design benefit metric?
11:02:04 From Kara Martin : Thank you so much to all the presenters for their time, experiences, and insight; also thank you to the Art of City Building organizing team and CUI for organizing and hosting.
11:02:27 From Selena Zhang, CUI to Canadian Urban Institute(Privately) : Got it
11:02:37 From Canadian Urban Institute to Selena Zhang, CUI(Privately) : Thank you!
11:02:48 From Selena Zhang, CUI to Canadian Urban Institute(Privately) : Should I do that right before it’s over? or she wants it now?
11:03:04 From Gagan Batra : I’m just at a loss for how to make people accept responsibility for perpetuating inequalities and these disparities. my community is not hugely diverse historically, but in the past decade has been home to so many more immigrants and POC, and there’s also a huge population of urban Indigenous. going forward, i’d love to have these considerations of racial segregation in planning of the city on the table for discussion, but it’s hard when the “multicultural” city is still a foreign concept to the residents
11:03:21 From Canadian Urban Institute : Please share your questions with everyone!
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11:05:17 From STEVEN MASTORAS : How do we quickly and effectively bring main-streets back to life with higher densities after this disastrous pandemic?
11:06:27 From Margaret Prophet to All panelists : community groups can help and want to help. Staff should seek them out as partners bc community groups can mobilize and organize communities to support the necessary change.
11:06:48 From Cheryl Evans : Is one of the big challenges that those who hold power do not wish to relinquish it. They want to fight harder to protect their privilege?
11:07:33 From Nick McLean to All panelists : Really interesting observation actions from Goodall here
11:09:17 From Natalia Diaz-Insense : Thank you, Tamika, for bringing up the need to prioritize listening to community and speaking up (i.e. be accomplices), instead of being allies with regards to equity.
11:09:44 From Scott Borden : Dismantling Planning Departments.. that’s an idea
11:09:53 From Aimée González Ferriol : It would be nice also to hear reflections on how to go about the “not in my neighbourhood” position of privileged communities that oppose, for instance, multifamily buildings, social housing or homeless shelters to be located in their space. Thanks!
11:10:02 From Canadian Urban Institute : Alex Bozicovic https://twitter.com/alexbozikovic https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-bozikovic-5260649/ Jeff Goodell https://twitter.com/jeffgoodell https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-goodell-70344211a/ Katherine Peinhardt https://twitter.com/kpeinhardt https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherineapeinhardt/ Julian Agyeman https://twitter.com/julianagyeman https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianagyeman/ Tamika Butler https://twitter.com/TamikaButler https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamikabutler/
11:10:33 From Niko Casuncad : Ideas and actions I wish I learned in planning school!
11:10:50 From F B : .
11:10:59 From Doug Snyder to All panelists : Bohm Dialog ….. dialog between eguals.
11:11:37 From Paul Mackinnon, AoCB : Interesting. For a long time, in Canada, we’ve looked at strong (progressive) mayor planning in the US as being transformative. I would be very interested to see the proposal in Boston. Has this been done anywhere else?
11:11:48 From Gagan Batra : Good point – I’m one of the few POC in my organization and I feel like I’ve been tokenized on many occasions. we need to also recognize that one person’s experience and thoughts are not representative of the entire demographic, and that like any other survey/data points, we need to be holistic in the perspectives we’re hearing before drawing conclusions
11:12:05 From Ohi Izirein to All panelists : Yes. Tuft’s University approach to training planners is great. That will be a better way of planning. Currently, most planners just do rubber stamping. Planners work in highly politicized environment.
11:12:25 From Michael Chong : How do “data-driven” decision practices fit in (or don’t fit in) with addressing issues in climate change and justice? How might statisticians, data scientists, and academics do effective work in this area? Specifically for those who might have technical skills to contribute, but not as much experience in community work?
11:13:14 From Canadian Urban Institute to Tara Wickwire, AoCB (Privately) : Hey, Tara! Is this wording ok? I can’t remember if you’re coming bac at the end or if Alex is finishing up. AOCB extends a big thank you to our host Alex Bozikovic and our entire panel for an exceptional discussion today. Thank you to our attendees too for your keen attention and participation.
11:14:18 From Jeanette Fich Jespersen : There are great US experiences with the ROI on inclusive approaches, please visit for instance Center for Active Design website, or, Centre for Active Design, University of San Diego. That having been said, there is a case to be made for the humane approach, paying less respect to whether it “pays off”. Simply doing it, because it is the right thing to respect your fellow human beings, of all ages, abilities and backgrounds.
11:14:20 From Faryal Diwan : yes Tamika!!
11:14:49 From Jeanette Fich Jespersen : Sorry, that was Centre for Active Living Research, University of San Diego.
11:14:51 From Andrea Redmond : With limits of time (as planners), and of budgets (as civil servants), we need to put emphasis on deep listening. How do we know if we’ve gone far enough with engaging communities?
11:14:52 From Elizabeth Jassem, Y(i)DOME ID Ltd., (YC SSC) York Centre Seniors Steering to All panelists : great Tamika. yes .
11:16:59 From Jurij Leshchyshyn : Further to the need for effective, equitable, diverse, engaged and empowered local community involvement, discussions of core causes of social and environmental inequities must include the impacts of economic and financial drivers including neoliberalism, runaway capitalism, tax evasion, money-laundering (especially through residential real estate) Davos, private and corporate influences on public policy, national and international oligarchs, that is, the institutional, market, corporate, and private roots of the issues under discussion.
11:18:48 From Canadian Urban Institute : AOCB extends a big thank you to our host Alex Bozikovic and our entire panel for an exceptional discussion today. Thank you to our attendees too for your keen attention and participation.
11:19:18 From Faryal Diwan : excellent question Julian!
11:19:24 From Irena Kohn to All panelists : Thank you!
11:19:36 From Chris Chopik to All panelists : Awesome Wrap Julien. #were are the Abroiginal Voices
11:19:36 From Faryal Diwan : thank you!
11:19:36 From Andrea Redmond : wow, thank you
11:19:36 From Gagan Batra : these are the kinds of uncomfortable questions we need to be unafraid to ask!